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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:01 pm    Post subject: Saints and the miraculous Reply with quote

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BpAndre,
I have a question re: miracles and sainthood. In the Roman Catholic church ( and eastern orthodox as well) a codex for the miraculous is required to deem one a 'saint' ; my understanding of this constitutes intercession by the deceased and/or supernatural manifestation of some sort that is verified. I note that Bishop Carlos Duarte is sometimes referred to as St. Carlos. Does your communion of churches arrive at this designation of sainthood as the other apostolic churches mentioned? Blessings in Christ, Joe
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: Saints and the miraculous Reply with quote

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BpAndre,
I have a question re: miracles and sainthood. In the Roman Catholic church ( and eastern orthodox as well) a codex for the miraculous is required to deem one a 'saint' ; my understanding of this constitutes intercession by the deceased and/or supernatural manifestation of some sort that is verified. I note that Bishop Carlos Duarte is sometimes referred to as St. Carlos. Does your communion of churches arrive at this designation of sainthood as the other apostolic churches mentioned? Blessings in Christ, Joe


Joe,

Bishop Carlos Duarte Costa was honored by the Church as a saint, in response to intercessory prayers answered and miracles claimed, investigated and verified. Below is an excerpt from the Patriarch's recent book, entitled "Igrejas Catolicas Nacionais" which I have translated from Portuguese into English. Today, all member churches of ICAN rightly venerate Bishop Carlos Duarte Costa as "St. Carlos of Brazil"

"Death, Exalted to the Altars

Dom Carlos Duarte Costa guided, directed and governed the Brazilian Church with a firm hand for 16 years, until he fell asleep in Christ, in Rio De Janeiro March 26, 1961, on Palm Sunday. At that time, Dom Carlos Duarte Costa, at 73 years age, had 50 Priests and 37 Bishops. The death of Dom Carlos Duarte Costa moved all of the Brazilian people, mainly in the City of Rio De Janeiro. Igreja-Mae and Couto Street of fidiciary offices had been overcrowded with people. The people wanted to see their Shepherd. It was a burial worthy of a Bishop who was very much loved by the people. The coffin with the mortal remains of Dom Carlos Duarte Costa proceeded down Igreja-Mae, on Couto No 54 Street, where Dom Carlos Duarte Costa was entombed with all the honors of a Pontiff, in the presence of the Bishops of ICAB.

The life of Dom Carlos Duarte Costa was irrepressibly evangelical, being distinguished for its absolute chastity, devotion the Holy Virgin Maria and the Eucharistic, where he passed several hours daily, in worship to the most august Sacrament of the Altar. Therefore, all who have had appealed to the Triune God, through his intercession, had been blessed with favors and miracles. Due to everything he had done, he was granted the honor of the altars by the national episcopate on July 4 – 6, 1970, on the Street of the Couto, n 54, quarter of the Penha, in Rio De Janeiro, with the title of 'Sao Carlos of Brazil'."

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: St.Charles and succession Reply with quote

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BpAndre,
Thank you for bearing with my questions; i hope i'm not being a nuisance as your information is valuable to me. I say this because many churches today claim a valid succession apart from Rome ( or Constantinople, Antioch, etc), but few, if any, can justify their existence through a saint. Therefore i ask, shouldn't more expectation be on the church to demonstrate her producing saints than just claiming apostolic succession?? Perhaps if there was, we wouldn't have so many 'imposter' churches and jurisdictional battles............................Joe
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: St.Charles and succession Reply with quote

jodudan wrote:
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BpAndre,
Thank you for bearing with my questions; i hope i'm not being a nuisance as your information is valuable to me. I say this because many churches today claim a valid succession apart from Rome ( or Constantinople, Antioch, etc), but few, if any, can justify their existence through a saint. Therefore i ask, shouldn't more expectation be on the church to demonstrate her producing saints than just claiming apostolic succession?? Perhaps if there was, we wouldn't have so many 'imposter' churches and jurisdictional battles............................Joe


Joe,

This forum was created so that people can ask questions! Your questions are welcome.

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